Yes, i'm an Arsenal fan, and even though im pretty happy with the most recent results:
3-1
6-3

i have to admit, those results were completely unexpected, and I think that Liverpool shouldn't have
screwed up as much as they did. Again one half of me is extremely happy because well, Arsenal
prospered, but i still don't see how Liverpool could have done that badly!

Arsenal basically scored when they came forward, thats quite funny if you ask me. They scored 9 goals in the 2 games & they probably had 12 attempts

I was extremeley 'hurt' yesterday. To see Liverpool concede 6 at home in 1 game was sad. I think Dudek cost us both games though. Over a stupid promise, Reina didnt play. Reina commands the whole area so much better & wouldnt have let al that cheap goals in. Hyypia was poor, worse game ever in a Liverpool shirt. Gerrard was poor in both games as well, hes been pretty poor this whole season If Gerrard played the way he did last season we would be alot higher in the league. Anyways i dont think Benitez was really interested in these cups, its obviuos he wants the Champs League.

i wouldn't lay it all onto dudek, yeah he made some really stupid mistakes
but your defence didn't even react to some of the things going on.

maybe 2 or 3 of the goals scored yesterday against you were worthy
goals.

The problem i simple.

Rotation policy.

Rafa needs to realised its not just the players fault its quite alot his fault for their extremely poor season. Man Utd & Chelsea use rotation but not very oftern, they generally play their best team and stick by it and play it as much as possible.

Rafa keeps rotating or changing the team and yes i know its a cup but he still has absolutly no idea what his best team is and until he finds it they wont win a thing.

Its pointless concentrating on the Champions League when your team has little form or confidence and your due to play Barcelona.

WHat happens when they go out to Barcelona? it means they're gonna be trophyless and in a right scrap for 4th place with Bolton.

Err... The dude probably made like 5 goalkeeping errors. Everytime we go behind and have to chase the game because of him

Not the best decision then



Exactly, going to be mighty hard for them to go thru now imo

Im sorry but i cannot help but joyful at this liverpool dimise..... 6-3?!?!


sorry bud!

Correct. Dudek will always be a hero legend for essentially winning the Champs League but lets be honest. Hes pretty poor.

How can you say that Gerrard was poor Bub? He was the best player in a Liverpool shirt by far. Benitez decision to put Paletta and Hyypia together was a complete catastrophe, as Hyypia is too old and slow now and Paletta is too young and inexperienced. So many times Paletta was easily beaten by Aliadiere, Baptista etc.

And i hate to sound like a broken record but i still maintain that Liverpool are grossly missing Harry Kewell. When he's playing he's one of the best left wingers in the world and Garcia and Gonzalez (who are now both injured also) do not even come close to him.

We're in big trouble and i for one, wouldn't be upset to see Rafa the Gaffa go. He's one some trophies and has done a good job but we seem to be going backwards now and not forwards.

I dont see what else Gerrard did besides the goal. Where's the Gerrard of old who use to make those driving runs from the back, down the wings infact he used to be everywhere. He's been off form for a while now and its about time he gets it back. As for Harry Kewell im not changing my view on him, he's a has been as far as im concerned.
And i definitely disagree with u about Benitez. He's won us the Champs League & the FA Cup & we've been in a league cup final. Why would u wanna sack him? Ferguson took about 6 years before he won his first silverware & so did Wenger. Benitez has won 2 trophies in his first 2 years. Sacking the manager would be disastrous as would delay us winning the league in further. Have some patience my friend. We still in the Champs League & ive not given up on the league yet. If we beat Chelsea well be right behind them and if United get a few injuries they can kiss the league goodbye.

Gerrard is awesome and undoubtably the best player the 'Pool have had since the '80's. I think one of their problems is that they rely on him too much.

Rotation is definitely a factor though I think - it's no point keeping your players slightly fitter by resting them all the time if none of them are performing because they can't get any momentum going.

You can't really blame Dudek for all the goals though their defence generally was just ghastly the other night.,

I think the problem lies in the fact that too many of my fellow Liverpool supporters expect instant success! As much as the Arsenal results hurt me, they didn't actually surprise me that much.

Rafa Benitez is 2.5 years into a project which he has basically been building from scratch, overhauling the whole structure of the club. Benitez's success at Valencia came from inheriting an established, top quality squad which he took onto the next level, and ultimately a squad that he could rotate without compromising their chances of winning a match.

The problem at Liverpool at the moment is that Benitez is applying the same squad rotation methods that he used at Valencia, but, it hurts me to say, ultimately the squad depth at Liverpool is nowhere near as good a quality as the Valencia team was - hence changes like the ones he made for the Arsenal games just do not work.

I'm willing to give Rafa Benitez a lot of time, he is far more capable of delivering success than Gerard Houllier ever was, and you only have to look at Man Utd and Arsenal to see what sticking by your manager can potentially achieve. The only manager who has achieved instant success is Mourinho at Chelsea, but with that kind of budget I have no doubts that Benitez, Wenger or Ferguson could achieve the same success if not more.

I am supprised Benitez didn't put a stronger team out for the game, he had just been knocked out of one cup and with a tricky game against Barcelona it was Liverpools best chance of a trophey this season.

Shocking defending Hypia and the young lad were awfull and Dudek didn't help matters.

It's not just the results that Rafa has been getting, i just personally don't like the way that Rafa has the team playing football. We play a slow brand of football that seems to rely on getting the ball out wide and crossing into the box. That's boring. There's no reason why we can't play good looking attractive football like Arsenal or (dare i say it) Manchester United. What has Spanish football ever won in terms of world football? They've never even come close to winning a World Cup because they don't play a good style of football.

You made the point that Rafa is rebuilding the team. I dont agree with that. Gerard Houllier starting rebuilding the team and he won more trophies that Benitez has with much less funds at his disposal. Houllier won the Treble for goodness sakes and he had the team playing good football as well!

We need either a French manager or a Dutch manager to get the best and most attractive football out of our squad. We have so many players in the squad that are capable of playing a technically good, fast paced and flairy style of football.

Gerrard Houllier got us playing negative & boring football so weve obviously been watching different games. Yes he was rebuilding the team and was doin a good job until he made signings like Diouf for 12 million & Cisse for 14 million, Cheyrou, Salif Diao. They were a complete flop and wasted our money. Houllier won us the treble but id take the Champs League any day over those 3 cups And Houllier was in charge for like 6 years. What else did he win?

And Benitez does not have us playing Spanish style football. Spanish style football is played the way Arsenal play ball. Their style is similar to spanish football. Look at the way Barcelona or Madrid play. It consists of patient build up by passing the ball around. They basically play passing game, possession football. Benitez has us playing English style football, which is get the ball out to the wings and cross, Man Utd play this way as well but are more effective coz they have better wingers than us

Barca play the dutch style of football under Frank Riijkard not the spanish style. When we play Barca in the CL, watch them and tell me that they aren't one of the best looking teams in the world and it has little to do with their players. It's the dutch style of total football and it's good to watch and it's also effective. There's no reason why Liverpool couldn't play that way, with the right coach.

Liverpool have always been known through the years as a team that plays passing football & just like u i wanna see them get back to that style I still think that its important to have proper wingers as well, its all about gettin the combination right. If u look at arsenal, they have so many opportunities when they on the wing to cross a ball in but they just carry on passing so yeah sometimes i think its good to cross. Pennant seems to be improving which is good its the left side im worried about now with Garcia & Gonzalez injured.

If Liverpool fans are pinning their hopes on Pennant being the answer, I would be worried. I am not convinced about their striking options either. On paper their midfield pairing of Gerrard and Xabi Alonso is one of the world's best, but neither seem to be performing.

Again it could be the lack of English players in the side, similiar to Arsenal. It is almost as if when the chips are down they give up and do not have the guile to come back. Gerrard seems to be showing the strain of the Superman routine, he cannot always be expected to do it.

dude, but arsenal kick ass there's a culture of play at arsenal whereas
i think that's what liverpool are missing