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Tracklist
01. Warpsmit - Passin Thru
Member: warpsmith
02. Der Mystik & Cybernetika - Forgotten Aeons"
Member: PDM
03. Smakmagic - Revolution
Member: Smakmagik
04. PC! - Hot Pursuit
Member: PC!
05. Brin & Sinsure present Forgotten Senses - Pacific Blue
Member: Douba & Phantazm
06. Cellec - Maledetto
Member: Cellec
07. Brickaloch - Winter (Bricky's Anguish Mix)
Member: Bricky
08. Leracin - Durging Sunshine In The Night
Member: RaveKid
09. Matthew J - Ocean Rain
Member: Thijsje
10. Visual Reflektor - Visual Reflection
Member: Pastangel
11. Cerium - Portfolio
Member: Pegasus

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does the style matter?
Full tracks cause the tracks aren't gonna be released i guess.

That is why I want to hear your opinions
And about the mixing.........There are people who prefer a mixed CD and some don't
So I would like to know what people want

let me and bricky do a nice intro

mix cd because then it's possible to get one or 2 more tunes on the CD and ask fuzzion to mix the CD. He would be honoured by doing that

I thought about the style: what to do if we make it from prog, developping to uplifting trance (BPM from 135 - 140 (142 maybe ? ))

I'm down for this, and yeah, a mix would be nice.

Just let me know, and I'll submit.

MIXED!!! only! because then tracks won't be full and it's still possible to use them to send to music labels.

style 136-143 bpm.

maybe somebody could create some rules /borders/ for that. Like... length and mastering levels... so all tracks would be usefull to mix them...

definitely mixed cd for me, then the tracks can be heard by a range of important people and some of the tracks may be picked out to be signed.

Sorry to keep talking about dj diamond, but i think it should be like one of his mixes, progressive to start with, then some nice melodic trance, some harder/techy stuff towards the end and finish with a few uplifting tracks. that would be really awesome.

About who mixes it, there are two possibilities:

1) We get a good software dj to do it so that there are no mistakes and it sounds really professional
2) We get a REAL dj to do it, so that it not only showcases ukta's producing talent but also showcases the great turntable talents we have at ukta.

I prefer option 2 but that's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

sorry to post twice in a row but i've just thought of another great idea.

in terms of the mastering of the tracks, maybe we could work out some sort of arrangement with "online-mastering.com" to master all the tracks that will be used on the cd to the same levels and then we can advertise that online-mastering did all the mastering on the tracks. that might appeal to them as a business...

prefer option 2 too...

+ the dj who does it has a good demo to hand out to clubs
so it would be likely the dj is someone who usually plays the same style

How about a CD with tracks from all UKTA Producers and mixed by one of our finest Dj's... (imo) Dj Diamond!! Was thinking about a CD starting with Progressive and ending with some uplifting trance

No thanks.... not willing to pay if I can do it myself.

Ok
It will be a mixed CD !
Now depending on the tracks that we got we'll see who will get the honour to mix it

defenitly agree that way noboddy can find a chance to rip the tracks and use them for themselves (at least not the full versions)

well i think it must be mixed

addicted in trance , let me mix it please ...

If you got the lucky number

No.......
We open a poll then were members can vote for the UKTA DJ who will mix it
An extra honour I think

yeah sounds nice...
guess u can't vote for yourself

indeed, we got a lot of good mixers here depending on the style of course, but djdiamond is the first one that comes to my mind the thing with a mixed CD though, is we need more songs than a full length track CD.

so you guys, get busy

yea a mix would be a good idea. people submit tracks, then we have a mixing competition and decide which one gets to be on the cd.

agree!

We just need a standards specified! It's up tp our moderators isn't it?

About tracks uploadin... i would preffer upload them to ftp, so nobody could download full tracks from UKTA users... And only moderators could rewiev our tracks and ask producers to recreate parts of track if needed (mastering or anything like that).

Moderators what do you think about that?

wrong !

I have a proof not all mods have that good technicaly trained ears (with all respect to them), but better hand it to one or 2 other participants because they know how to technically listen a tune

Quoting a few mods (anonymous) who didn't study trance and cannot judge us on mastering:

well i meant people like addicted_to_trance tijsje and so on... maybe it's poosible to ask proffesional oppinion from friends who working for music labels??? I guess somebody could have ones better from holland

I think that the producers here on the forum are good enough to give opinions

I've got several tracks U can use btw... 1 bit progressive, 2 uplifting ones...

I hope that every producer on this forum submits his best track
To represent the producing talent we got on this forum

maybe not only 1 so to make better choice for mix

Please don't state that we have bad taste only because we don't like many of the tracks posted here

I think mixed CD + samplers is a good idea.

oki

edited that post a little (not by feeling forced)

Now that's better... and i agree with you now

that sounds wicked , sure makes it more open for other styles then just progressive
but i'd say limit it to 140

wtf is this,,, sorry to say,, but are we gonna MAKE tracks for the cd or COLLECT trakcs ? ,,, my tracks variate from 142 till 128 ... so

I'm not thinking about the BPM........
We'll see that when the tracks are coming

wish to hear your track sometimes,, thought you were getting the hang of producing?

no
I'm not producing
Wish I could

so when do the tracks need to be handed in by, for the cd. i wanna make a track for the cd, but i've nothing to hand in straight away. give us a closing date to work on.

yeah and where to upload unless I missed it.

and is there any info who will produce UKTA cd??? which music label???


Uploading place pls and deadline? and conditions for mastering and min-max lenght of the track!

i could offer my 60 mb webspace for tracks..

As for now there is no deadline
You need to subscribe first and subscription will start end of August
More info will follow soon

i'll take a look in my connections box if there are any ppl close related to labels maybe asking ricksta ?

conditions of mastering: as clear as possible, I guess a 320 copy would be the best.. but then we all have to make a 320 copy for the dj who mixes it

track lengt: I guess it should be at least dj friendly, no intro versions... maybe only the first tune.. but then we have to make a decision who does the intro tune. My idea is making the track length arround 8/9 minutes and take arround 45/60 seconds with no melody (so only drums and bass) to keep it dj friendly

that's long enough for sure,, ,, and well about the Dj Friendly thing,,, your a dj or not,, come on.. mix it

I certainly would like to do, but these days I concentrate more on the producing side.. which costs me enough energy btw

aren't all trance tracks "dj friendly" ? i mean i haven't really found one trance track that i can't mix
only have that with techno sometimes... but there are no boundaries with mixing techno

well, if you take a tune like brickaloch - after the silence, that's a tune which isn't that dj friendly.... which doesn't say it's a bad tune

a dj friendly tune means the tune has at least something like 45 seconds of only kicks with a developping percussion and a simple bass (imo one chord).

Yeah I agree, just make a tune, no rules, it just has to be something related to trance... if you are a good dj, you can mix everything

I also made a 70 minutes mix with 20 house-tunes lately

that is quite impressive. Diamond.

Hmmmm I can make the intro, well it depends of when do we have to hand in the song.

The idea about the intro I had is to make something like Armin van Buuren - Prodemium/Precious

something that tells a story, you know

if you recorded that mix by any chance i would like to hear it for sure
i love house and alot of mixing involved

I'll up it in the members download area

...back to the cd.

what are some ideas about the cd? how would it be distributed, would it be sold? would the money raised, go to improving ukta's facilities or divided amongst the dj's and producers involved. could a record label become involved to distribute it? getting a record label involved would probably limit the profit for ukta but would undoubtadely help promote the cd. I mean when it all comes down to it, we're not doing it for money. We're doing it to promote our music and to promote UKTA. So i dont see why we shouldnt get a record label involved. Maybe someone like Songbird that did Tiesto's ISOS4. That would be good publicity..

Anyway, discussion open.

i agree to you, douba....

are there any ppl on UKTA related to labels or got contact with label managers ?

agree label would be nice!

one more think is about style.... r u sure that it should be uplifing... what about tech trance? or something in style of "nature one" like track for big arenas?

what we decide about it?