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Blinque
It was a good read, and did give some chills down my spine after reading, it's a rare interview with a terrorist in training who reveals the ways of a suicide bomber, and deadly secrets. I'm sure most of you would find this a good read.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...77288-1,00.html

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Bpmkid
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"First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans."


Wow!!!

I am not able to comprehend how these kids let themselfs get brainwashed. It is shocking to know how at the age of 20, maybe younger...They hunger for death and destruction and have the urge to kill in the name of a God or (Allah).
This is very sad.
Michcio
I simply don't understand those people.
trance lova
I just read this article in the TIME magazine and it was a very good + an interesting read. Anyway, here is a quote:

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"Yes, I am a terrorist," he says. "Write that down: I admit I am a terrorist. [The Koran] says it is the duty of Muslims to bring terror to the enemy, so being a terrorist makes me a good Muslim."


Who has brainwashed this guy? He clearly doesn't understand that being a terrorist is a bad thing.
Blinque
it's just plain misinterpretation of the Koran, and they're making all muslims in the world look terrible by saying that
murkinen
QUOTE(Blinque @ Jun 29 2005, 02:04 PM)
it's just plain misinterpretation of the Koran, and they're making all muslims in the world look terrible by saying that

exactly....

it says "inside the mind of a suicide bomber"..

their mind were just empty and then filled with those stupid things
perfectoworld
Chilling stuff indeed.
If it states in the Koran that it's ok to kill the enemy, then why are they also killing hundreds of innocent Iraquis.
It's pretty obvious that these people are tottaly brainwashed, and gullable for allowing themselves to be misled in this manner.
PegaSus
unfortunatly those people excists dry.gif
not my thing to read though..
xdelao
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"no alcohol, no music and no Western influences."


That's why this guy want to die !!
(and NO women I supose) laugh.gif
Bricky
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read.

How do you fix a guy like that? A guy that believes that blowing up a bunch of people (that he admits he'd like to get to know!) will get him into heaven. I mean where's the common ground ... where would you start?

Wish I could speak to the guy.
blackened_sky
i can't say that these people have been brainwashed or are gullable at all,
personally, i think they are doing in what their minds is right.
i do think that what they are doing is wrong, what worries me the most
is that they do not find their actions at all immoral, as im sure many soldiers
do have second thoughts about pulling a trigger, unless literally it is a life
or death situation
Bpmkid
QUOTE(blackened_sky @ Jun 30 2005, 11:17 PM)
i can't say that these people have been brainwashed or are gullable at all,
personally, i think they are doing in what their minds is right.
i do think that what they are doing is wrong, what worries me the most
is that they do not find their actions at all immoral, as im sure many soldiers
do have second thoughts about pulling a trigger, unless literally it is a life
or death situation

huh.gif They're born hating America??
They get ideas from their national tv....all of that (America is the devil) propaganda they see.
Friends and family members that have heard ideas from other hating american people.
You don't just start hating people in your head for no reason dude...Thats all they see and hear over there. Which is brainwashing!!!
They are being lied to, they are being programed to hate and kill a false enemy.
They can become someone...
This guy in particular...he is only 20 for goodness sake!
He just started hanging around with that group and ate up all of their lies.

If you live in a country where 90% of their population and their activities involve
Hate...
Seavers
QUOTE(Blinque @ Jun 29 2005, 12:04 PM)
it's just plain misinterpretation of the Koran, and they're making all muslims in the world look terrible by saying that

Thatīs the point!
Iīm no muslim, but i got a lot of muslim friends and the last thing that they are supose to do, to
fight for their right and their religion is to blow them selfīs away!
blackened_sky
"They're born hating America??
They get ideas from their national tv....all of that (America is the devil) propaganda they see."

well errr, in all honesty if a foreign country decided to attack my country,
and knowing that their leader (bush) is a moron and is actually doing it
for personal gain, then i don't really think i would be happy tbh.
you and i can't make a solid argument because the truth is 'we don't really know'
Bpmkid
QUOTE(blackened_sky @ Jul 1 2005, 12:26 PM)
"They're born hating America??
They get ideas from their national tv....all of that (America is the devil) propaganda they see."

well errr, in all honesty if a foreign country decided to attack my country,
and knowing that their leader (bush) is a moron and is actually doing it
for personal gain, then i don't really think i would be happy tbh.
you and i can't make a solid argument because the truth is 'we don't really know'

laugh.gif I see you let the Media tickle your ears...
What you see or hear on tv is not always truth.
The media puts 100 on 10 dude.
Don't forget that your own country is in it two....Which would mean that Blair is as big of a moron as Bush is!

Remember when Prince Harry showed up at a party with a nazi outfit. But he was just dressed up for the party.
Now, remember how the "MEDIA" blew it all out of proportion. Causing Jews around world to condemn prince's Harrys actions.
Well...thats how it is with Bush.
Ya, theres always contraversy.....theres always the need to blame someone.
But lets be real, terrorism does exist!
You just read the Interview.
No matter how cruel it seems, someone needs to do something about it.
They behead people, dude! and record it and then use it as propaganda! They show all of those images on tv...They don't care if children see them.
They kill their own people in bombings just to make a senseless point. Which is???
I don't know....
They lost all credibility by doing those awful, disgusting, unhuman actions.

I don't want to live in a place where people feel and act that way.
So, I am glad Bush is doing what he is doing to protect us.
We can't just allow ignorance, something has to be done! cheers.gif

I respect your views...but think about it.
Even if it was for oil like the MEDIA says...Terrorism exists and no matter what
those savages, will always cause terror and pain no matter what.
lestatx
QUOTE(blackened_sky @ Jul 1 2005, 04:26 AM)
"They're born hating America??
They get ideas from their national tv....all of that (America is the devil) propaganda they see."

well errr, in all honesty if a foreign country decided to attack my country,
and knowing that their leader (bush) is a moron and is actually doing it
for personal gain, then i don't really think i would be happy tbh.
you and i can't make a solid argument because the truth is 'we don't really know'

well i most say, my country was invaded twice by the US in the early 1910's and 1960's
i wasnt alive at that time, but if i were alive i would probably have been as pissed as these guys, of course not to the point of suicide bombin i dont really have any intention of dying that easily, but we dont really know i agree on that point, and i dont really think theyre brainwashed i mean if u read the article the guys says he was doin pretty good he decided to start attacking americans when soldiers started shooting at a protest he happened to be participating in, i dont think that qualyfies (sp?) as brainwashing,
i mean what would u do if iraqis invaded the us and started shooting at peaceful protests??

and about the innocent bystanders, although again i say i dont agree with their methods of suicide bombing and all, in his favor he does say that he hopes no innocent people get killed wink.gif
Bpmkid
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i mean what would u do if iraqis invaded the us and started shooting at peaceful protests??


ranting.gif 911.
nono.gif Spain Train Bombings.
nono.gif World Trade Center Attacts Back in the 90s.
nono.gif Us Embassy Attacks in about 25 Countries All Over The Planet.
nono.gif Not To Mention All the Other Bombings That Ocured Before.
sad.gif All The Innocent people from all of those countries that died from 1930s - 2005.

News reporters, Christian Missionaries, Tourists and Workers that were kidnapped and murder just for being there
lestatx
so i should probably just count all the people that were killed by US troops in their two invasions to the dominican republic and go out on an anti US campaign as they terrorized the dominican people during those invasions tongue.gif
maybe if we had enough money huh.gif
but i mean come on, i dont agree with killing people, so i dont agree with either side, be it the US or Islamic Terrorists
Bpmkid
QUOTE(lestatx @ Jul 2 2005, 07:32 AM)
so i should probably just count all the people that were killed by US troops in their two invasions to the dominican republic and go out on an anti US campaign as they terrorized the dominican people during those invasions tongue.gif
maybe if we had enough money huh.gif
but i mean come on, i dont agree with killing people, so i dont agree with either side, be it the US or Islamic Terrorists

rolleyes.gif I don't agree with Innocent people dying...
This is really sick and painful, Lestatx sad.gif .

But terrorism will always exist....Hate and Ignorance will always exist.
Something has to be done...

America has lots of enemies.....
lestatx
QUOTE(Bpmkid @ Jul 1 2005, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE(lestatx @ Jul 2 2005, 07:32 AM)
so i should probably just count all the people that were killed by US troops in their two invasions to the dominican republic and go out on an anti US campaign as they terrorized the dominican people during those invasions  tongue.gif
maybe if we had enough money huh.gif
but i mean come on, i dont agree with killing people, so i dont agree with either side, be it the US or Islamic Terrorists

rolleyes.gif I don't agree with Innocent people dying...
This is really sick and painful, Lestatx sad.gif .

But terrorism will always exist....Hate and Ignorance will always exist.
Something has to be done...

America has lots of enemies.....

yeah i know i just love a good argument tongue.gif
its a really complex subjec, the US as the current times empire has to step in, i agree with that, and i also agree with the macheavellian argument that he who is in power should do anything to keep it and expand it,
but there are a bunch of other ways to do it, and followin what has been done for centuries is just the way that people who do not want to be "the first ones" or "different" do things, i believe that we should let go of all the power struggles if we really want to help,

and if ure interested i know its a touchy subject u might want to check out a documentary called In Plane Site http://www.911inplanesite.com/
its really enlightning and the evidence on there can be verified by oneself 100%

im goin to bed it was nice tongue.gif
Bpmkid
QUOTE(lestatx @ Jul 2 2005, 07:49 AM)
QUOTE(Bpmkid @ Jul 1 2005, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE(lestatx @ Jul 2 2005, 07:32 AM)
so i should probably just count all the people that were killed by US troops in their two invasions to the dominican republic and go out on an anti US campaign as they terrorized the dominican people during those invasions  tongue.gif
maybe if we had enough money huh.gif
but i mean come on, i dont agree with killing people, so i dont agree with either side, be it the US or Islamic Terrorists

rolleyes.gif I don't agree with Innocent people dying...
This is really sick and painful, Lestatx sad.gif .

But terrorism will always exist....Hate and Ignorance will always exist.
Something has to be done...

America has lots of enemies.....

yeah i know i just love a good argument tongue.gif
its a really complex subjec, the US as the current times empire has to step in, i agree with that, and i also agree with the macheavellian argument that he who is in power should do anything to keep it and expand it,
but there are a bunch of other ways to do it, and followin what has been done for centuries is just the way that people who do not want to be "the first ones" or "different" do things, i believe that we should let go of all the power struggles if we really want to help,

and if ure interested i know its a touchy subject u might want to check out a documentary called In Plane Site http://www.911inplanesite.com/
its really enlightning and the evidence on there can be verified by oneself 100%

im goin to bed it was nice tongue.gif

detective2.gif I am Aware of that and Fareinheight 911 biggrin.gif
It is touching indeed....
But like I typed on my previous replies....Not everything you read, see or hear is real.
The human imagination expands far wink.gif
blackened_sky
i think i was misunderstood, i tried emphasising the point
that 'we really don't know'

read the book 1984 by george orwell, maybe you will see things from
my perspective. if you can't be bothered then just look up some stuff on
it over the net.

trying as much as i can not to flame, but i'm sorry, no way do i let
the media have any say in what i think, i base my arguments on the
current situation

this is pretty heated, not sure wether we are discussing, blaming or
just plain arguing
lestatx
QUOTE(blackened_sky @ Jul 2 2005, 05:09 PM)
i think i was misunderstood, i tried emphasising the point
that 'we really don't know'

read the book 1984 by george orwell, maybe you will see things from
my perspective. if you can't be bothered then just look up some stuff on
it over the net.

trying as much as i can not to flame, but i'm sorry, no way do i let
the media have any say in what i think, i base my arguments on the
current situation

this is pretty heated, not sure wether we are discussing, blaming or
just plain arguing

just exchanging points of view wink.gif
at least for all i have said im not blaming any one person tongue.gif
Bpmkid
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i think i was misunderstood, i tried emphasising the point
that 'we really don't know'


You emphasized Bush bein a Moron thumbsupsmileyanim.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
blackened_sky
QUOTE(Bpmkid @ Jul 4 2005, 12:40 AM)
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i think i was misunderstood, i tried emphasising the point
that 'we really don't know'


You emphasized Bush bein a Moron thumbsupsmileyanim.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

lol well, do you agree? wink.gif

p.s your point is pretty unrelated to what i said
Bpmkid
QUOTE(blackened_sky @ Jul 4 2005, 08:29 AM)
QUOTE(Bpmkid @ Jul 4 2005, 12:40 AM)
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i think i was misunderstood, i tried emphasising the point
that 'we really don't know'


You emphasized Bush bein a Moron thumbsupsmileyanim.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

lol well, do you agree? wink.gif

p.s your point is pretty unrelated to what i said

wink.gif I can't say that hes that brightest president the US has ever had, because, well, we all know that Bill Clinton was tongue.gif cheers.gif
But, I get your point dude rolleyes.gif
zigieb
Its sad but true....people are heavily influenced by the culture they are raised in or religious followings!
In this case its both and sadly he has been raised to be a foot soldier within they're "Culture of Death"!


For this reason the Middle-East will never have PEACE and PROSPERITY!!!
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