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Abdul
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A Netherlands proposed tax on MP3 players could devastate sales of hard disk players, and set up international waves over copyright legislation.

The tax is being proposed by the Stichting Thuiskopie foundation, and is set to become law in the Netherlands in a few short months unless the European Commission finds a reason to intervene. It is unlikely that will happen, as it has failed to come up with a policy for levy taxation so far.
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The idea of all levy based legislation is that some form of copyright collections agency collects tax by imposing a surcharge at the point of sale for any storage devices that could possibly be used to store pirated works. This certainly extends to the iPod which has up to 60 GB of storage, and which can store MP3 files.

Because of the fact that the great bulk of iPods are used to store legitimate iTunes files which are Digital Rights Management (DRM) protected, this means that copyright is being purchased twice over for these devices if a levy is also paid.

The charge will be levied against every MP3 player, and is effectively a tax on the MP3 format. Some efforts to place MP3 files under DRM protection will also mean that these will pay copyright twice over.

Levies are an outmoded and unfair way of rewarding existing monopolies and are only ever put in place to keep ancient publishing copyright agencies in business.

In almost every case the organization itself that carries out the collection is lavish and well funded, the proceeds are distributed only to large multinational music publishers, bolstering their revenues unfairly. It is little more than a club of companies that "have a right" to make money.

If this legislation comes into play, the surcharge will be as much as €3.28 ($4.3) per gigabyte. This might put €180 ($235) to the price of a top end iPod.

Already in Germany there is a levy on PC hard drives, that will soon become larger than the entire PC industry revenue if it is left in place. Within two years, as disk drive sizes move to terabyte class on notebooks, and petabyte levels on home DVRs, the tax will come to far outweigh not just the cost of the drive, but the cost of the device. Under this Netherlands law, if it were extended to the PC, the cost of 1,000 GB would be €3,280 ($4,300) and yet drives of this size will be delivered by 2007.

The only way to bypass this law in the Netherlands might be to tweak iPods and other players to only accept alternative formats that are always protected by DRM, but that would mean that only iPod (with AAC) and Sony devices (with ATRAC) could have any sales and we're not sure that would satisfy the new law as we don't yet know how it is going to be worded.

Or the Dutch could just become a nation without iPods. I wonder how happy that would make them?

-Register
djfuzzion
lovely ranting.gif
ImpactPlayaz
This is terrible news. mad.gif
PegaSus
already got a player thnx God. smile.gif
Fly
so the people who pay for there collections get screwed twice, this will just make people feel justified to illegal share and download mp3s.
djfuzzion
QUOTE(Fly @ Apr 28 2005, 10:03 PM)
so the people who pay for there collections get screwed twice, this will just make people feel justified to illegal share and download mp3s.

exactly smile.gif
stevo
petabytes??? blink.gif

wasn't it like 'Pete bites'?? watch out then...
darude8000
Thank god I aint dutch then or live in holland
thijsje
already have a mp3 player smile.gif
was one of the earlier ppl to get them smile.gif
PHg
Bought one in the beginning of 2004... s**tty measure though
thijsje
germany is close enough to buy them for very cheap biggrin.gif tongue.gif

(25 % of my music collection comes from there too)
Kato
Daft...a lot of people who use ipods buy mp3s legally anyway. And how is that going to stop filesharing...there's no tax on winamp.
Phantazm
got one myself not so very long though.. luckily i bought it.
got up to 20GB that would be enough to satisfy my needs smile.gif
thijsje
QUOTE(Phantazm @ Apr 29 2005, 11:08 AM)
got one myself not so very long though.. luckily i bought it.
got up to 20GB that would be enough to satisfy my needs smile.gif

20 GB ohno-smiley02.gif
seems I need a new one tongue.gif
mine is 160 times so small tongue.gif

but I'm happy with it though smile.gif
don't use the man a lot
Kit
bad news.

i guaranty the sales of ipod will be drop. wink.gif
tx101
Oh no it will be our turn in the UK next ranting.gif ranting.gif

we all know how desperate the government is for money.

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djfuzzion
QUOTE(tx101 @ Apr 29 2005, 10:18 AM)
Oh no it will be our turn in the UK next ranting.gif ranting.gif

we all know how desperate the government is for money.

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

you can still buy them online and you ll be fine biggrin.gif
PHg
I have a 60 GB mp3 player... imagine the extra cost laugh.gif
Black-Hole
You can always import your player wink.gif

Unless other countries are doing the same ph34r.gif
Blinque
im expecting the UK and other EU countries to make the same moves in the future ranting.gif
PHg
QUOTE(Black-Hole @ Apr 29 2005, 02:36 PM)
You can always import your player  wink.gif

Customs check for such tax eligible products.. you might get screwed that way wink.gif
xdelao
Thanks god goverment here don't even know what a mp3 player is ! laugh.gif
Black-Hole
QUOTE(PHg @ Apr 29 2005, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE(Black-Hole @ Apr 29 2005, 02:36 PM)
You can always import your player  wink.gif

Customs check for such tax eligible products.. you might get screwed that way wink.gif

I've always been lucky so far torch.gif
Squintz
wow that is really f*cked up. those greedy bastards ranting.gif
tx101
QUOTE(Squintz @ Apr 30 2005, 07:01 AM)
wow that is really f*cked up. those greedy bastards ranting.gif

you buy most things in this country and you will have to pay some kind of shealth tax ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif
thijsje
I think this topic isn't that necessary anymore smile.gif

I just read in a magazine that it won't happen biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

congrats all biggrin.gif


btw, why pay tax to contribute to recordlabels when you also buy legal mp3's unsure.gif
pharell
they said the same thing about CDR's
TacticalManual
god that sucks!!! sorry dutchmen. i love the U.S!! wub.gif
Black-Hole
QUOTE(pharell @ Apr 30 2005, 09:35 PM)
they said the same thing about CDR's

They've already added a little tax on CDR's here in Holland wink.gif
thijsje
QUOTE(Black-Hole @ Apr 30 2005, 11:38 PM)
QUOTE(pharell @ Apr 30 2005, 09:35 PM)
they said the same thing about CDR's

They've already added a little tax on CDR's here in Holland wink.gif

they should remove it...
we already pay for our mp3's ranting.gif

I'm happy germany is close enough to take my bicycle laugh.gif
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